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08/23/2008 3:09 AM  
OK so here is a question who would you pick and why? I have been watching the news coverage and was just wondering what you people think as alot of you are americans and lets keep this  civil

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08/23/2008 3:24 AM  
Unfortunately we Americans are unable to keep things civil.

Politics is one of those no-no topics on Maxminis.  As soon as there is a whiff of smoke I'll be locking this thread down.

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08/23/2008 3:58 AM  
Politics is one of those no-no topics on Maxminis.


Why? maybe the ofenders should be blocked not the thread, not really fair to punish everybody for the actions of a few

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08/23/2008 4:59 AM  
I'll stay polite.Â

I do particularly like either candidate.  I like Obama bettter for the change favtor, but I would have to go with McCain only for the experience factor even though he'll just be another "W" / same old thinkg in the White House.Â






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08/23/2008 10:16 AM  
You have a looney-tune vs. an idiot. Can I choose neither?

I like Hilary but odds are good she won't run as a 3rd-slot spoiler.

Oh, and what Cthulhufnord said about whiffs.

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08/23/2008 10:33 AM  
Well you can pretty much thank the Bush administration for turning this independent into a lifelong Democrat.

I'll be voting for Obama

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08/23/2008 10:36 AM  
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 08/23/2008 3:24 AM
Unfortunately we Americans are unable to keep things civil.

Politics is one of those no-no topics on Maxminis.  As soon as there is a whiff of smoke I'll be locking this thread down.

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08/23/2008 10:38 AM  
Posted By Ghendar on 08/23/2008 10:36 AM
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 08/23/2008 3:24 AM
Unfortunately we Americans are unable to keep things civil.

Politics is one of those no-no topics on Maxminis.  As soon as there is a whiff of smoke I'll be locking this thread down.

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08/23/2008 10:39 AM  
I'm writing in Darth Vader - Bringing justice and peace to the Galaxy since a long time ago....

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08/23/2008 10:44 AM  
And psychic asphixiations. Don't forget psychic asphixiations.

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08/23/2008 10:44 AM  
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 08/23/2008 10:38 AM
Posted By Ghendar on 08/23/2008 10:36 AM
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 08/23/2008 3:24 AM
Unfortunately we Americans are unable to keep things civil.

Politics is one of those no-no topics on Maxminis.  As soon as there is a whiff of smoke I'll be locking this thread down.

Now where did I put my matches.









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Posted By Ghendar on 08/23/2008 10:44 AM
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 08/23/2008 10:38 AM
Posted By Ghendar on 08/23/2008 10:36 AM
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 08/23/2008 3:24 AM
Unfortunately we Americans are unable to keep things civil.

Politics is one of those no-no topics on Maxminis.  As soon as there is a whiff of smoke I'll be locking this thread down.

Now where did I put my matches.









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Good.  Some folks mess that one up.  They force feed them unlit.

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08/23/2008 7:27 PM  
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08/24/2008 9:51 AM  
McCain.

Obama has good intntions, but his plans won't work, and he'll spend too much of his prsidency butting heads with people.

But it'll depend on the VP candidate. That will show what kind of presidential legacy he wants to leave.

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08/24/2008 10:22 AM  
i think if i could vte i would vote or Obama i think it is tie for a change of pace

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08/25/2008 7:23 AM  
Whoever we get, it'll be better than Bush.

I hope Obama though, but he has to stay sensible, and not let things get to his head. McCain seems the more stable and safe choice, but I think the world can do with some change.

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08/25/2008 8:44 AM  
Not a huge fan of either, but if I have to pick, I'd pick Obama. I'm pretty sure he's not senile and I don't think he'll force a war with Iran.

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08/25/2008 11:38 PM  
I like both. Boy, that's weak isn't it?

But, let's face it, both were the best that their respective parties had to offer. One's a war hero, and the other's a self-made Harvard guy.

One thing I have noticed from watching a lot of US news is that Obama really strikes me as a guy who looks like a president. McCain doesn't quite seem to have the same aura about him.

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08/26/2008 6:12 AM  
Posted By Wraithborne on 08/25/2008 8:44 AM
but if I have to pick

You don't 'have to' pick, you 'get to' pick.

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08/27/2008 12:07 AM  
That's a very nice distinction. When you think of it in the latter terms, and realize how many people in the rest of the world don't have that chance, it might actually make a disinterested person actually want to vote.

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08/27/2008 12:11 AM  
For those of you watching the DNC, what do you think so far? Will Hilary help Obama get a lot of those women's votes? What do you think of Ted Kennedy?

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08/27/2008 11:10 AM  
That's a very nice distinction. When you think of it in the latter terms, and realize how many people in the rest of the world don't have that chance, it might actually make a disinterested person actually want to vote.


voting should be mandatory

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08/27/2008 12:49 PM  
Posted By Wolfgang on 08/27/2008 11:10 AM
That's a very nice distinction. When you think of it in the latter terms, and realize how many people in the rest of the world don't have that chance, it might actually make a disinterested person actually want to vote.


voting should be mandatory

And when that happens, it's usually 'mandatory' to vote for the person who is already in charge...

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08/27/2008 1:58 PM  
Obama sounds like Adama, coincidence? There are no coincidences. ;)


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08/27/2008 11:30 PM  
So, we're on one huge Battlestar then?

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08/28/2008 3:43 AM  
Posted By Thenameless on 08/27/2008 12:11 AM
For those of you watching the DNC, what do you think so far? Will Hilary help Obama get a lot of those women's votes? What do you think of Ted Kennedy?

Only watched a little, most if it Hilary's speach Tuesday night and Biden's speach last night.  I like what I'm hearing from the Democrats.  And Obama's VP Biden is a good choice IMO.Â





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08/29/2008 2:08 AM  
Obama actually sounded a little fired up today. I think he needed that.

Can't wait to hear from McCain now.

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08/29/2008 6:48 AM  
Posted By Thenameless on 08/27/2008 11:30 PM
So, we're on one huge Battlestar then?


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08/29/2008 10:14 AM  
Posted By Thenameless on 08/27/2008 11:30 PM
So, we're on one huge Battlestar then?


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08/29/2008 10:18 AM  
Posted By Ghendar on 08/29/2008 6:48 AM
Posted By Thenameless on 08/27/2008 11:30 PM
So, we're on one huge Battlestar then?


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Anybody that needs to click that to see what Sinistar is needs to hand in their geek card. I put so many quarters into that game....

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I had to click, but in all fairness, I grew up under a rock in the boondocks...


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08/29/2008 10:36 AM  
Posted By Wraithborne on 08/29/2008 10:18 AM
Posted By Ghendar on 08/29/2008 6:48 AM
Posted By Thenameless on 08/27/2008 11:30 PM
So, we're on one huge Battlestar then?


As long as it's not a Sinistar.
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"I hunger!"
"Run, coward!"
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinistar


Anybody that needs to click that to see what Sinistar is needs to hand in their geek card. I put so many quarters into that game....


To be fair, that game is 26 years old.
Yikes! That's depressing.

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08/29/2008 10:37 AM  
Posted By greyhaze on 08/29/2008 10:24 AM
I had to click, but in all fairness, I grew up under a rock in the boondocks...


I grew up in West Virginia...

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08/29/2008 11:08 AM  
Posted By greyhaze on 08/29/2008 10:24 AM
I had to click, but in all fairness, I grew up under a rock in the boondocks...


I grew up in West Virginia...


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08/29/2008 11:11 AM  
Posted By Ghendar on 08/29/2008 10:36 AM
Posted By Wraithborne on 08/29/2008 10:18 AM
Posted By Ghendar on 08/29/2008 6:48 AM
Posted By Thenameless on 08/27/2008 11:30 PM
So, we're on one huge Battlestar then?


As long as it's not a Sinistar.
"I am Sinistar!"
"Run! Run! Run!"
"Beware, coward!"
"I hunger!"
"Run, coward!"
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinistar


Anybody that needs to click that to see what Sinistar is needs to hand in their geek card. I put so many quarters into that game....


To be fair, that game is 26 years old.
Yikes! That's depressing.


I had a lotta quarters when I was 9

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Posted By Wraithborne on 08/29/2008 10:37 AM
I grew up in West Virginia...


You know that part of Canada that they always show Wolverine coming from... yeh, pretty much that, except in north western Ontario.


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08/30/2008 3:07 PM  
Back on topic.

What do you guys think of the running mates that they both chose? Did one of them do a better job of helping himself get elected as President? How so?

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08/30/2008 11:25 PM  
Obama should have gone with Hilary but I have a sneaking suspicion Hilary wanted no part of that. Biden has a lot of skeletons in his closet and despite serving on both the foreign relations and judiciary committees in Congress lacks specific experience in the economic arena. Still, Biden was a solid choice compared to most of the other options (although I would have liked to see Lieberman as well). Obama just doesn't offer much by himself and Biden is lacking spice.

McCain should have gone with Romney. Romney would be lambasted for being Mormon (odd that Harry Reid never gets slammed for his LDS affiliation) but he's got some sold economic development experience (2002 Olympics, Gubernatorial, etc). Plus he doesn't seem to have many skeletons lurking. Palin is an interesting choice for several reasons. She's both a deliberate attempt to target the very upset conservative faction of the GOP which aren't thrilled with McCain and she's a deliberate attempt to ramp up appeal to women voters. Palin is a mediocre choice for a couple of reasons. First, one of the primary critiques against Obama is lack of experience and while Palin has an impressive resume it isn't very long (so, mixed bag on experience). She's also probably too conservative to appeal to the "moderate" voting block. Finally, McCain is archaic and one solid stroke or heart attack away from Palin becoming president which may or may not improve her standing (some people will fear her as president, others will be pleased).

So, the VP race on both sides seems to be a miss. Obama really needed Hilary (who frankly snubbed him in her DNC speech although she set herself up for 2012 nicely) but went with Biden. McCain needed Romney but went with Palin.

Have to see if the GOP has anything to say during their convention. Odds are against it, but it would be a nice surprise. The DNC didn't really offer much more than the moldy "hope and change" without any substance line which has been thrown around for months.

I guess it would be too much to ask for either side to serve up a specific gameplan for economic/energy/foreign policy change over the next 4 years (Obama's 10-year plan was empty rhetoric since the max presidential term is 8 years). I'd love to see a 2 year, 5 year, and 8-10 year plan but I'm probably being far too optimistic when it comes to politicians.

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08/30/2008 11:46 PM  
I don't know who McCain's other final choices were, but she came out of left field. I think he was worried about Romney being a Mormon, but one thing about Romney is that he looks like a President - if something were to happen to McCain. Basing a vote on looks is superficial, but it works for a lot of people; many believe that the dog picture of Kerry caused him to lose. I think Palin could pay some dividends, moreso by being a woman than by being a conservative. The backlash of disgruntled Hilary supporters, paired with the fact that Palin is a heart-attack or stroke away from being President could work in McCain's favour.

Biden complements Obama in many ways, but I agree that with Hilary, he is an auto-win. Even though they became bitter rivals in the end, who did not see eye-to-eye, Hilary could have given Obama so many votes that the dream-team would have land-slided McCain.

This is just all from an amateur watching the news. I'm no political expert.

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08/31/2008 10:18 PM  
I was gonna go with Barry H Obama until he picked Biden as his VP.  I just dislike that guy, maybe cause of the plaigarism.

And he looks like an albino.

McCain is from my state (AZ) and I like his views on immigration (very big here).  However, some of his outbursts on the senate floor demonstrate behavior NOT fitting the guy who's gonna be in charge of the Big Red Button.Â

Then, of course, he picks the MILF from Alaska, Sarah Palin.  Man, is she hot!
No practical experience to speak of, but Nummy num num nums!

At this point, I am seriously thinking about returning the being one of the 3%ers from 4 years ago, when I voted for Ralph Nader.


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