Janos M. Underboss
 1015 Posts



 Hamburg / GErmany
 | | 06/05/2007 3:33 AM |
| | and don't forget the Lawful Magical Beasts... | | My Haves and wants: http://www.maxminis.com/hw_list.asp?user=Janos_M.
Champion of Elan Psions
Proud Owner of the "Aura of cursed dice" | |
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Ryoga Underboss
 1124 Posts



 Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
 | | 06/05/2007 6:25 AM |
| What a h___! WOW!
I hate CG... | | Dealing with new life... new country and life without DDM :( Some day I will be back in board | |
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Autoxdsm Sergeant
 814 Posts



 Myrtle Beach, SC
 | | 06/05/2007 8:39 AM |
| | Yeah, Blessed hunter now charges with a smite for +16/+16 for a total of 70 damage and Save 12. | | Champion of the Brainstealer Dragon Desert of Desolation Called Shot: Medium Brown Dragon ***Winner of WBC VIII and XII*** | |
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Ryoga Underboss
 1124 Posts



 Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
 | | 06/05/2007 9:20 AM |
| Posted By Autoxdsm on 06/05/2007 8:39 AM Yeah, Blessed hunter now charges with a smite for +16/+16 for a total of 70 damage and Save 12. Oh my god!!! .... WHY! explain PLZ, My mind cant understand ...
| | Dealing with new life... new country and life without DDM :( Some day I will be back in board | |
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Autoxdsm Sergeant
 814 Posts



 Myrtle Beach, SC
 | | 06/05/2007 9:28 AM |
| BAB +13/+13 +1 LMW, +2 charge = +16/+16 (Full Attacks Via Pounce)
First attack: 10 magic + 10 powerful charge + 10 smite evil. = 30 damage Second attack: 10 magic + 10 rend + 10 for the CFX + 10 powerful charge = 40 damage Total = 70 magic damage
All through allies and rought terrain thanks to acrobatic charge.
Full round of attacks are +14/+14 for 40 magic damage (loses the smite and powerful charge bonus)
Save 12 DR5 Immune to Electricity
Not bad for 47 points. Is it enough to make him playable??
| | Champion of the Brainstealer Dragon Desert of Desolation Called Shot: Medium Brown Dragon ***Winner of WBC VIII and XII*** | |
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Autoxdsm Sergeant
 814 Posts



 Myrtle Beach, SC
 | | 06/05/2007 9:40 AM |
| Sorry for the double post but I was thinking.
Blessed Hunter (47pts) 70 damage charge + 40 c damage next round of attacks = 110 damage in 2 rounds, 150 in 3 rounds
Firegiant Forgepriest (84pts) 30 damage on a charge + 60 damage next round = 90 damage in 2 rounds, 150 in 3 rounds
wow!
| | Champion of the Brainstealer Dragon Desert of Desolation Called Shot: Medium Brown Dragon ***Winner of WBC VIII and XII*** | |
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vanrulzz Commander
 2778 Posts



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 | | 06/05/2007 10:09 AM |
| Posted By Autoxdsm on 06/05/2007 9:40 AM Sorry for the double post but I was thinking.
Blessed Hunter (47pts) 70 damage charge + 40 c damage next round of attacks = 110 damage in 2 rounds, 150 in 3 rounds
Firegiant Forgepriest (84pts) 30 damage on a charge + 60 damage next round = 90 damage in 2 rounds, 150 in 3 rounds
wow!
you still have to consider Frogpriests higher atk bonuses. | | | |
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Autoxdsm Sergeant
 814 Posts



 Myrtle Beach, SC
 | | 06/05/2007 10:11 AM |
| | yeah higher hp and AC but I still have 37 points for 94 points I have 2 Blessed Hunters. | | Champion of the Brainstealer Dragon Desert of Desolation Called Shot: Medium Brown Dragon ***Winner of WBC VIII and XII*** | |
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Longbow Warrior
 236 Posts




 | | 06/05/2007 10:30 AM |
| | The CFX is really good and he has some nice warband building. He´s not that cheap, though. | | German championship 12.05.07 in Berlin --------------------------------------------------------------------- Want to play DDM in Berlin, Germany? http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dndminisberlin/ | |
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Sirohk Commander
 3938 Posts



 USA
 | | 06/05/2007 3:05 PM |
| Posted By Ryoga on 06/05/2007 6:25 AM What a h___! WOW!
I hate CG... I guess that WotC REALLY REALY REALLY wants this to be the year of CG.Â

| | Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone Knight of the Rahshasa's And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
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E Thug of the Round Table Wolfgang Warlord
 6530 Posts



 Milton, Ontario Canada
 | | 06/05/2007 3:27 PM |
| | SWEET! | | Proud member since March 26 2005 Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN Completed trades: (94) Bad traders(2) DJchuckles, sardal Called shots:Sivak Draconian in DD Trade References Email Me | |
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iluvxtina Underboss
 1501 Posts



 Spain
 | | 06/06/2007 2:52 AM |
| | Are you completely sure about seven winds mage and the lion?Hum...this creature is decent without this effect so now is....a powerhouse (if this information is true).I praise it will be true because LG and CG are my favourite factions (I,m completely tired about triple balcks and ultro champs!). | | LOVE THIS GIRL | |
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vanrulzz Commander
 2778 Posts



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 | | 06/06/2007 9:51 AM |
| Posted By iluvxtina on 06/06/2007 2:52 AM Are you completely sure about seven winds mage and the lion?Hum...this creature is decent without this effect so now is....a powerhouse (if this information is true).I praise it will be true because LG and CG are my favourite factions (I,m completely tired about triple balcks and ultro champs!). nobody is allowed to like CG anymore. GO LE!!!
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Chad the DragonLordofAiur Underboss
 1085 Posts



 Southeast PA
 | | 06/06/2007 10:19 AM |
| Thanks Janos - what other stats might you have to share?
If those stats are true that would be awesome.  GMA a couple of Chraals and Cone over your enemy - sweet. | | Member of Team Amish 3rd Place in 2007 Constructed World Championship My combined DDM Skirmish record of all games ever played in all formats. 486 - 188 - 4 | |
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Chad the DragonLordofAiur Underboss
 1085 Posts



 Southeast PA
 | | 06/06/2007 11:31 AM |
| | Scrath that - GMA a Blessed Hunter into a charge position. | | Member of Team Amish 3rd Place in 2007 Constructed World Championship My combined DDM Skirmish record of all games ever played in all formats. 486 - 188 - 4 | |
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Lord_rock Underboss
 2045 Posts



 Portland OR
 | | 06/06/2007 1:10 PM |
| Here's hoping that the commander effect actually grants rend +10 and not an unamed 10dmg bonus or is at least restricted to elementals and Magic beasts... Frenzied bersekers + wild elf warsinger for example...yuck...even more dmg over a three round spread...
all in all this guy is pretty great though... stout enough to tie a chrall to and they hit for +12/+12 for 40total with all thier coney/deathbursty/staying power...
and then thiers the dire bear...
| | Rock Bottom Pricing: Arcane Archer 30, Centaur Hero 67, Human Cleric of Bane 25, Gold Champion 34, Death Knight 52, Goblin Blackblade 9, Silentwolf Goblin 7, Orc Raider 10, Dwarf axefighter 9, Healer 9, Thaskor 65, Aspect of Demogorgon 71, Ogre 9, Fire Giant 79, Human Wanderer 7, Drunken Master 18, Barghest 12, Longstider Barbarian 27, Longtooth Barbarian 22, Frost Giant 76, Ravenous Vampire 42, Large Earth Elemental: priceless | |
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juanchoquinche Sneak
 161 Posts



 colombia/bogota
 | | 06/07/2007 4:50 PM |
| ohoh the hierophant of the seven winds will be a beast, a monster a god. it´s too good but i play with LG and this is a bad new because it´s too powerful | | called shot: dungeon of dread: medium bronze dragon desert desolation: sand giant champion champion of zelekhut | |
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
 10492 Posts


 United States
 | | 06/09/2007 7:21 AM |
| Posted By Janos M. on 06/05/2007 12:18 AM Hierophant of the Seventh Wind Faction: CG Points: 47 Lvl: 10 Speed: 6 AC: 17 or 18 HP: 65 Cmd: 3
CfX: Followers that hit with two attacks in the same turn get +10 damage on the second attack. Warband Building: Magical Beasts and Elementals of every alignment are legal.
Beastmaster: 10, Elementalmaster: 10, magical beasts get +4 to morale saves and other special abilities I can't remember. Spells: Legions Magic Fang, cure moderate wounds, some 1st lvl spells.
Well, let's see. First, a commander effect only works if the follower is within 6 of the commander. So, charging away from the Hierophant won't grant the +10 damage.
There are many magical beasts and elementals that will be good for CG to have, this will be a nice change. But, there's not much stacking love with the Warden of the Wood, so, pairing those two commanders won't help. The Greenfang Druid's commander effect could work with magical beasts brought over by the Hierophant, so that's worth considering. But, if you spend 97 points on commanders, you don't have much left for punching. There may be some interesting combos with the Bonded Fire Summoner as well, but, the same issue of spending too much on commanders comes into play.
So, let's assume that the Hierophant is your only commander. Level 10 is nice, and commander 3 is low, so, you aren't going to win map too often, and you are going to lose some key initiatives. And, your commander routes on a 6 or lower. With such a low AC, you need to be able to protect and/or buff the commander, and that requires spending some points on tech.
I don't see this as game-breaking. Just another nice alternative. A couple Shadowdancers can wipe the Hierophant away, and a few acid lines from Large Blacks are still a threat. And, with so many pieces that cause elemental damage or are immune to elemental damage already, this just messes up your options in the meta a little more.
No big deal, just another nice option.
Dave
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Ryoga Underboss
 1124 Posts



 Coquimbo - Chile / Italia
 | | 06/09/2007 8:16 AM |
| I agree Vrecknidj, I think that this wizard will be Tier 1 of FUN units... hehe but have interesting options for CG, we need to wait to see complete stats card.
Ryoga | | Dealing with new life... new country and life without DDM :( Some day I will be back in board | |
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