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Corim Danex
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| http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mi/20081009a
This week we present two soldier monsters that can be found in the 4th Edition Monster Manual.  Mezzodemon The mezzodemon (formally known as the mezzoloth) is a soldier that
fills its role by skewering foes with the tines of its trident. This
new Mezzoloth figure has a more dynamic pose than the one from Blood War
and as a result looks a bit less like a bellowing creature from a
certain farmboy's desert planet. They do look similar enough that when
placed together, they are instantly recognizable as the same creature. |
Cyclops Hewer  In my mind, there is a group of iconic Large D&D monsters. Ogres, minotaurs, and trolls were all present in Harbinger, the first set of D&D Miniatures released
back in 2003. The next couple of sets gave you dragons and giants. I
feel that every miniature set needs a selection of these staple large
creatures. (I'm also curious to see what other large creatures people
consider to be staples. Centaurs? Umber hulks? Aboleths? Post on the
message boards and mention your favorites!) I had a book on greek mythology on the bookcase next to my bed as a child, so the inclusion of the cyclops in the first Monster Manual for 4th edition makes me very happy. The Cyclops Hewer is the second cyclops done as a D&D miniature. The Cyclops Hewer soldier power is Evil Eye, an ability that can
persuade a creature not to attack. By targeting an enemy with Evil Eye,
if that enemy misses a melee attack while within reach of the Cyclops,
the Cyclops can take a free attack against that creature. In the
roleplaying game, this power is expanded further by allowing the
Cyclops to shift closer when a target moves out of reach. That's it for this week! Advanced knowledge about next week's preview requires you to have combat advantage.
About the Author Peter Lee is the newest member of the RPG R&D Design team and the new Lead Designer for the D&D Miniatures game.
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Knight of Argenis
Corim Danex
Warlord
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West Valley City, Utah
| | 10/08/2008 9:45 PM |
| I have no interest whatsoever in the Mezzodemon thing. I want zero.
Cyclops: Still thinking...
Eye is painted better--big improvement over previous one
Change of weaponry plus shield--good variety
Same basic physical appearance--very good
Overall, the cyclops is probably a good thing. I didn't really like the first one, but if they stick with this appearance, I could get used to it. | |
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Cthulhufnord
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| | 10/08/2008 10:14 PM |
| I'm not thrilled about either of them..... then again I don't hate them either.
I don't mind having another Mezzo wachicallit in a different pose. It looks alright and the paint job is nice.
The Cyclops is pretty cool looking, it's what that other piece of Fomorian $%&#$! should have looked like.
Too newish minis, not quite meh and not quite yeh.
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zenthrus
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SLC, UT
| | 10/08/2008 10:34 PM |
| Not very pleased that the cyclops with a battle axe is rare. They're the squad-style cyclopes in the MM4. Should have been uncommon.
Can't say I've ever used my Mezzoloths for RPG. Not terribly thrilled with a resculpt.
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Sirohk
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| | 10/09/2008 3:35 AM |
| I like the Preview. Mezzodemon sculpt looks ok and stats seem decent. Same for Cyclops - has nice armor and I could use a few more Cyclops.Â
Now for what I don't like. I don't need any more Uncommon Mezzodemons. The Cylops looks dorky with white skin (I hope that this is just a result of the picture, otherwise I'll have to repaint).Â
Demonweb still looks liek a great set.Â
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mazra
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440 Posts
Canton, GA
| | 10/09/2008 4:17 AM |
| Hi Everyone,
First of all I agree with Sirohk about the white skin on the Cyclops. What's up with that?
However, I like both figs and will be pleased to get them.
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| | 10/09/2008 5:40 AM |
| | im going to pass on both of these. to bad the cyclops is a rare. | |
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Wolfgang
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5762 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 10/09/2008 7:05 AM |
| the mezzo is good not stunning but not bad ether
the cyclops i think is a really good looking mini
overall i think this preview was very good way to go WOTC!!!! | |
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Wraithborne
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| | 10/09/2008 7:27 AM |
| | Not too thrilled with either of these. I may pick up 1-2 for variety, but nothing I need here. Why the Mezzoloth suddenly became a Demon is beyond me. | |
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yack
Commander
3270 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 10/09/2008 7:47 AM |
| mezzodemon is ok but also a meh because I have 12 of the other. Maybe need one. just to be a leader
Would of like to see a new lloth be created.
The cyclops is ok , need one. | |
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Dordledum
Commander
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Netherlands
| | 10/09/2008 8:00 AM |
| I like both, especially the new Mezzo, hope it endures time a little better.
what's with the poison damage and immune poison? there was nothing wrong with acid was there?
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arbados
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1446 Posts
New York, USA
| | 10/09/2008 12:53 PM |
| Not thrilled with either.Â
Do we really need a resculpt of a mezzolith (now demon). Come on. Sculpt is ok, but I want to see something new. Enough with the resculpts.
Cyclops. Well it looks ok, not withstanding the white skin this time. However, as I said above....give me something new which hasn't been done.
They mentioned Aboleth in this preview!!! Give me that and I will be excited even if it is now a darn large instead of what it should be as a huge!!!
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greyhaze
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6920 Posts
| | 10/09/2008 1:00 PM |
| | How is the Cyclops a resculpt? the original was holding a pole arm. | |
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arbados
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| | 10/09/2008 8:27 PM |
| greyhaze
If you are asking me then I am not stating an exact resculpt of the cyclops. I am more or less hoping for creatures which have not been produced yet. When you have so many minis I guess you are simply looking to garner the things which you don't have or have no great proxy for. | |
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subliminalmf
Skirmisher
39 Posts
Maine
| | 10/09/2008 8:47 PM |
| For me...
Mezzo seems kinda soon for a re sculpt, but the sculpt is better. I still need more for an adventure I'm working on, so I'll give in to say I like it.
Cyclops is nice for the variation, but also seems soon. At the same time you need squads for fourth...should have been an uncommon.
My two cents...now I'm broke...arrr...
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greyhaze
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| | 10/09/2008 9:07 PM |
| Posted By arbados on 10/09/2008 8:27 PM
greyhaze
If you are asking me then I am not stating an exact resculpt of the cyclops. I am more or less hoping for creatures which have not been produced yet. When you have so many minis I guess you are simply looking to garner the things which you don't have or have no great proxy for.
Yep, I was addressing your post. I guess we view resculpts differently. I take it more literally, you know "same guy in a different pose". I think with only 1 other Cyclops out there, this really doesn't deserve the "I'm tired of redos" speech just yet. The Mezzo is a resculpt, I'll totally accept that as a worthy complaint (not that I govern such things), granted I don't mind it, but I don't buy cases.
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Knight of Argenis
Corim Danex
Warlord
6809 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 10/09/2008 9:15 PM |
| | Especially since the first girallon was an uncommon. This one seems useless. I just wish the first one didn't have a stupid tail. | |
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Cthulhufnord
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| | 10/09/2008 9:58 PM |
| Making the resculpted girallon rare does elict a wft? response from me. 
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| 10/09/2008 10:06 PM |
| Posted By Cthulhufnord on 10/09/2008 9:58 PM Making the resculpted girallon rare does elict a wft? response from me. 
It elicits a 'don;t have to get that rare that's for sure' from me ;)
I'm meh about the mezzodemon - I didn't like the first one and don't really like this one either but I like the look of the new cyclops. I don't even mind that it comes on the heels of the previous one either - these guys come in fairly large groups in 4E so having a bit of choice and varience is a good thing to me.
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berus316
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Markham, Ontario Canada
| | 10/10/2008 5:30 AM |
| The mezzo is the first mini in this set that I don't like. Mind you, I just plain don't like the look of Mezzo crap so that's not really WotC fault.
The cyclops is cool enough, will add to the other one and it's repaint and I'm probably done needing Cyclops.
Kind of ho-hum preview this week. | |
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Thenameless
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11768 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 10/10/2008 10:15 AM |
| I'm not into either of these.
Just a pair of rehashes, and nothing to write home about. | |
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