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 Vrecknidj Warlord
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 United States
 | | 09/30/2008 6:51 PM |
| Hey everyone,
Phoenix Lore's first issue is finally available for download.
Don't let the low-tech front page fool you.
Grab the issue, read it, criticize it, tell us what you like and don't like on the PL forums.
Suspect you can do a better job as a writer or illustrator? Let me know, I'm the content manager and I'd love to give you a chance to get you published.
Besides, I really need to get other people writing, I can't do it all.
Dave | | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
|  Bert the Troll Commander
 3964 Posts



 Adelaide
 | | 09/30/2008 7:03 PM |
| | looks good, woot water rules :) | | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton again tomorrer." Bert the Troll - The Hobbit Semi-Secret sig business: "In the age of the internet attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy." - Benjamin Franklin Champion of Epic Lolth, Orcus, & Demogorgon and bring us Asmodeus! | |
|  Most Edumacated zenthrus Warlord
 5101 Posts



 SLC, UT
 | | 10/01/2008 12:01 AM |
| First impression is you might want to optimize the pdf by removing document structure and removing hidden layer content and flattening layers. That should suck about 5 minutes out of the time it take to spool to a printer (the automatic flattening caused the print job to take almost 10 minutes to spool).
More impressions after I have time to read it. | | Knight Warlord a.k.a. Commander (#32) in only 6 months. Where's my pie? Champion of Dwarven Thunderlashers Knight of the Large Dire Chicken Have/Want List Trade References | |
| relientKitten Warrior
 179 Posts



 Portland, Oregon
 | | 10/01/2008 2:57 AM |
| So, the whole Harpy thing... it's great that this young lady is kinda keeping a role with it, but it's really overboard. A few fewer references to eating children/men and a few more real answers for these (real?) questions would be great.
As usual, all females in the illustrations are either huge-breasted or scantily clad (or both) except for a rogue in one advertisement and the water-logged chick on page 6. How about a scantily-clad Half-Orc or Dwarf female? Or some fully-clothed women? Or **gasp** flat-chested ones? Variety would be awesome. (The Goblin Panty-Raid... at least it was different.)
I'd love to see some spotlights on women who game and are good at it (female DMs, DDM/Warhammer skirmishers, MtG players). The Sims does not count.
I don't know much about other gaming beyond D&D/DDM, but those articles were pretty good. I loved the artwork on the water pheonix and the new rules items are great at a quick glance (I'll read a second time to absorb better later).
My ex would probably love a shot at submitting to this 'zine, I'll send him towards it.
(Believe it or not, I'm not a feminis (at least not the extreme kind)... but I'd love to see the women gamers better represented (without it being slightly-erotic, like the harpy Q&A)). | | ~relientKitten, Champion of Elenriel Annanole, Loremistress >^..^< Happy Customers: 17 Completed Trades: 22 Crochet Beholder: http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/68/postid/810379/view/topic/Default.aspx Crochet Dice: http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/68/postid/807807/view/topic/Default.aspx My trades, references, and flavrs: http://www.maxminis.com/Forums/tabid/104/forumid/53/postid/808880/view/topic/Default.aspx My can-has-want-plz-trade list: http://www.maxminis.com/hw_list.asp user=relientKitten | |
| Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
 6920 Posts




 | | 10/01/2008 9:56 AM |
| Excellent job Dave. That's a massive first issue.
Love the scantily clad women. ;)
Igor's artwork is superb. | | Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. Called Shots: Frost Giant in Dangerous Delves. | |
| thekidxii Sergeant
 464 Posts



 No Yack. I said.. we need a DM not BM!
 | | 10/01/2008 11:52 AM |
| | there are gamer chicks? | | Champion of the dire hippo. Audi Vide Tace "Nothing matters but the weekend, From a Tuesday point of view" -Diamond & Zero | |
| Shottglazz Underboss
 1135 Posts



 Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
 | | 10/01/2008 12:49 PM |
| | ...rare and quasi-legendary... | | Shottglazz "Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand; I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
Completed trades ( 51 ): Pikel, Darrell x2, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x4, Wraithborne x6, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek x4, Generic Fighter, Auric, Relientkitten Pending trades ( 2 ): relientKitten x2 WotC trades ( 1 ): Red_Deceiver Bad trades ( 2 ): LeftEyeofGruumsh, Yotebeth | |
| mazra Sergeant
 440 Posts



 Canton, GA
 | | 10/01/2008 3:18 PM |
| Posted By relientKitten on 10/01/2008 2:57 AM As usual, all females in the illustrations are either huge-breasted or scantily clad (or both) except for a rogue in one advertisement and the water-logged chick on page 6. How about a scantily-clad Half-Orc or Dwarf female? Or some fully-clothed women? Or **gasp** flat-chested ones? Variety would be awesome. (The Goblin Panty-Raid... at least it was different.)
Hi RK,
Scanitily clad women has been a part of heroic fantasies for longer than you or I have been alive. Frank Frazetta and Boris Vellejo have made quite a career capturing this imagery. However, I wouldn't mind a scantily-clad Half Orc or Dwarf female. That would be quite welcome. We actually have seen a move to more fully-clothed women in the heroic fantasies, especially in the figurines.Â
I totally agree though, more variety would be AWESOME! I wouldn't mind a harpy fig that looks like the drawing in the mag though. 
Later,
Mazra
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| E Thug of the Round Table Wolfgang Warlord
 5762 Posts



 Milton, Ontario Canada
 | | 10/01/2008 3:58 PM |
| | how about a chunky female wizard? or just chunky woman! | | Proud member since March 26 2005 Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN Completed trades: (86) Bad traders(2) DJchuckles, sardal Called shots:Sivak Draconian in DD Trade References Email Me | |
|  Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
 | |  Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
 | | 10/01/2008 4:42 PM |
| Posted By relientKitten on 10/01/2008 2:57 AM
(Believe it or not, I'm not a feminis (at least not the extreme kind)... but I'd love to see the women gamers better represented (without it being slightly-erotic, like the harpy Q&A)). We're staffed with several women, and the editor-in-chief is one of the most well known in the industry.
I'm sure that if you head over to the Phoenix Lore forums and add your voice, that they'd appreciate it.
Dave
| | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
|  Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
 | | 10/15/2008 6:11 PM |
| Phoenix Lore has had over 600 downloads.
Thanks to all here who have helped us!
Issue 2 (and 3) are on their way. Look for some really excellent material, including some very nice interviews.
Dave | | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
| Shottglazz Underboss
 1135 Posts



 Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
 | | 10/15/2008 8:14 PM |
| | Can't wait! | | Shottglazz "Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand; I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
Completed trades ( 51 ): Pikel, Darrell x2, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x4, Wraithborne x6, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek x4, Generic Fighter, Auric, Relientkitten Pending trades ( 2 ): relientKitten x2 WotC trades ( 1 ): Red_Deceiver Bad trades ( 2 ): LeftEyeofGruumsh, Yotebeth | |
| Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6809 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 10/15/2008 10:14 PM |
| Is Phoenix Lore designed to compliment 4e now or is it for both 4e and 3.5?
| | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
|  Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
 | | 10/17/2008 4:36 PM |
| Presently, thanks to the current GSL, we're restricted to non-4e material. There are a few apparent exceptions (such as minis 2.0). I am working on some work-arounds, but, we'll see how that works.
If the GSL changes, we're ready to add 4e material ASAP.
I wouldn't mind at all if readers spontaneously decided to head over to the Phoenix Lore forums and add their own 4e translations of existing magazine material.
Dave | | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
| Knight of Argenis Corim Danex Warlord
 6809 Posts



 West Valley City, Utah
 | | 10/19/2008 12:49 PM |
| | I was asking, Vrecknidj, because I have zero interest in 4e and am interested in 3.5 material. The thrust of my question is, will there be ongoing material support for 3.5 in Phoenix Lore? | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47 Vindicated Champ of Hippogriff (Arcadian Hippogriff) and Uncommon Horse | |
|  Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
 | | 10/19/2008 6:55 PM |
| Ah, sorry about that. Indeed, that's all we're doing right now is 3.5e material (well, when we're doing D&D...). And, as far as I can tell, that's our plan for the future as well.
Incidentally, Rite Publishing is doing the same (sticking to 3.5e), but they're heavily focused on Monte Cook's stuff.
Dave | | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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