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09/07/2008 5:48 AM  
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Many players have written us about recent disparaging D&D references by a John McCain staffer, Michael Goldfarb. I want you to know that everyone at Wizards is offended and baffled by the ignorance. Obviously, this person harbors some retro prejudices and has no idea what D&D is about or who the fans really are. I thought you should know that my colleagues at Hasbro also take offense and sent a letter to Michael Goldfarb (copied below). Wizards will continue to promote D&D as the great heroic fantasy game that it is and we thank you for your continued support and encouragement.

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August 28th, 2008

Michael Goldfarb
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Dear Mr. Goldfarb,

I was disappointed to read the disparaging intent of your comments regarding Dungeons & Dragons (D&D) fans, both in your response to New York Times editors, and on the John McCain campaign website.

Dungeons & Dragons is a global game with millions of consumers in the U.S. and abroad. The brand is owned by Wizards of the Coast, a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc.

For fans, the game is essentially about heroism and therefore it is not surprising to us that thousands of military personnel play and enjoy the game. Hasbro, in turn, supports the U.S. Armed Forces by sending multiple crates of game products, including Dungeons & Dragons, to our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Recently a soldier who saw your comments online said, “Wizards of the Coast (the makers of D&D) has sent care packages to the troops on many occasions, providing free gaming supplies in support of our men and women serving the country overseas to help them decompress after hours. McCain's people should really check their facts before they spout off. Does John McCain have no idea how many GIs play D&D?”

We would very much appreciate you not making any more condescending comments about D&D -- as it is a great game enjoyed by millions of people around the world. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Wayne Charness
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09/07/2008 6:29 AM  
so what did he say? i must google this

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09/07/2008 7:20 AM  
Posted By Wolfgang on 09/07/2008 6:29 AM
so what did he say? i must google this

Check the McCain-Palin 2008 boards...

Posted at 5:08 PM on 8/18/2008 by Michael Goldfarb
Smears the Left Can Fight For

In the least credible and most vicious corner of the internet, liberal bloggers at the Daily Kos are accusing John McCain of plagiarizing from Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. The story Solzhenitsyn told was of a prisoner who drew a cross in the dirt in a Soviet Gulag. McCain's story is of a guard who drew a cross in the dirt in a Vietnamese prisoner of war camp.

The only similarity between the two stories is a cross in the dirt, but it is hardly an unlikely coincidence that there were practicing Christians in both Russia and Vietnam, or that in the prisons of those two Communist countries the only crosses to be found were etched in the dirt, as easily disappeared as the Christians who drew them.

But those desperate to discredit Senator McCain's record will have to impugn his fellow prisoners as well. Orson Swindle, who was held as a prisoner of war along with McCain, tells the McCain Report that he heard this particular story from McCain "when we first moved in together." That was in the summer of 1971, Swindle said, though "time blurred" and he couldn't be sure. He said it was some time around then that the Vietnamese moved all "36 troublemakers" into the same quarters, where they "talked about everything under the sun."

It may be typical of the pro-Obama Dungeons & Dragons crowd to disparage a fellow countryman's memory of war from the comfort of mom's basement, but most Americans have the humility and gratitude to respect and learn from the memories of men who suffered on behalf of others. John McCain has often said he witnessed a thousand acts of bravery while he was imprisoned, and though not every one has been submitted into the public record, they are remembered by the men who were there (one such only recently reported by Karl Rove though it escaped mention in any of Senator McCain's books). But as Swindle said, this is a "desperate group of people trying to make something out of nothing."

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09/07/2008 7:22 AM  
I didn't know the D&D crowd was pro-Obama, or that it disparaged the memories of war of fellow countrymen, or that it spent all its time in its mom's basement....

Looks like poor Mr. Goldfarb is a little out of touch.

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09/07/2008 11:37 AM  
Looks like poor Mr. Goldfarb is a little out of touch.


oh i think he is touched that's for sure

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09/07/2008 12:47 PM  
He is certainly out of touch and a poor spokesman. I play D&D, support the troops, and my mom lives in the basement of my house, as my wife and I want to support her and enjoy her company. And I am planning to vote for McCain-Palin as I have more confidence in them than in Obama.

This blog statement truly is an example of general prejudice in politicians who don't take time to really learn what they are talking about. Such errors throughout politics are so commonplace they are pathetic.

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09/07/2008 1:03 PM  
Kudos to Hasbro.

I think some foot-removal is needed from the guy's mouth.

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09/07/2008 1:29 PM  
I wonder how much of an effect negative comments about D&D will affect the voting. There are quite a few gamers out there, though not all of them will see this, and even those who see it might not change their minds.

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09/07/2008 1:54 PM  
It won't change my opinions a bit. I don't like either one of them.

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09/07/2008 7:08 PM  
Lesser of two evils?

Politics are teh suck.

I've been sending this to every gaming list I'm a member of.

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09/07/2008 9:00 PM  
Posted By Thenameless on 09/07/2008 1:29 PM
I wonder how much of an effect negative comments about D&D will affect the voting. There are quite a few gamers out there, though not all of them will see this, and even those who see it might not change their minds.
Well, as I had never heard of this campaign guy before, his opinion is quite irrelevant to me, even if I think he's out of touch.  I doubt that he's talked to McCain about D&D.  And even if he had, I could actually care less what any candidate thinks of D&D.  There hasn't been any legislation about D&D as far as I know in the history of the country.  And I don't think that politicians would even do anything about D&D in the future.  Honestly, it's such a small hobby in the scope of the nation that I'm surprised us gamers even show up as a blip on the political radar.  The fact that they know so little about gamers shows that it's not an important topic.

While D&D is definitely a strong and vibrant hobby of mine that I have spent more money on than any other hobby in my life, by far, I am also practical about knowing that I am part of a relatively small group in the country that know and enjoy the game.

I think it's silly that anyone would change their vote because some fool of a campaign aid made an uninformed statement.

I am glad that Hasbro/WotC responded to his ignorance with the statement.  Educating people who don't know much about the game is a good thing.  Hopefully, this unlearned assistant will do some further research before making more foolish comments.


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09/08/2008 4:43 AM  
Goldfarb's funny as hell apology:

"If my comments caused any harm or hurt to the hard working Americans who play Dungeons & Dragons, I apologize. This campaign is committed to increasing the strength, constitution, dexterity, intelligence, wisdom, and charisma scores of every American."


The comments on the original link  are just gold!
(well I don't know if it tis the original source but still...)



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09/08/2008 6:28 AM  
Posted By relientKitten on 09/07/2008 7:08 PM
Lesser of two evils?


The irony is that there are more than two evils, but no one can break the mold.

Guess he failed his knowledge bureaucracy check...


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09/08/2008 11:33 AM  
Posted By greyhaze on 09/08/2008 6:28 AM
The irony is that there are more than two evils, but no one can break the mold.

How many evils are there?
There are 303 and 3003 evils.
Right, but how many evils are there really?
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Right, but how many evils are there really?
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Right, but how many evils are there really?
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Right, but how many evils are there really?
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Right, but how many evils are there really?
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Right. And who are those 303 and 3003 evils?

Back on topic...big shock that a low-level political hack spouted off about something he/she was uninformed about. Kudos to Hasbro for attempting to correct misconceptions about their products.

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09/08/2008 11:36 AM  
I meant there were more parties to vote for than the standard two.


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09/08/2008 12:08 PM  
Posted By Corim Danex on 09/07/2008 9:00 PM

I think it's silly that anyone would change their vote because some fool of a campaign aid made an uninformed statement.

I agree and at the risk of being labeled as a douche, anyone who bases his/her vote on that should not be allowed to vote.

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09/09/2008 2:46 PM  
his butt kissing is funny to me

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09/09/2008 4:36 PM  
So, Mr. Goldfarb responded to WotC.

Does someone have a link to his reply

EDIT:  Please post a link if you have one.

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09/09/2008 5:40 PM  
People who don't know what they are talking about are better off just keeping their mouths shut.  Hopefully he at least gets a slap on the wrist.


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09/10/2008 2:29 PM  
Amusing.......

given the unfortunate and fraudulent Statanist scares of the 1980's I'm sure there's at least a few Pols with a negative veiw of D&D.

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09/11/2008 8:23 AM  
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 09/10/2008 2:29 PM
Amusing.......

given the unfortunate and fraudulent Statanist scares of the 1980's I'm sure there's at least a few Pols with a negative veiw of D&D.


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09/11/2008 4:35 PM  
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 09/10/2008 2:29 PM
Amusing.......

given the unfortunate and fraudulent Statanist scares of the 1980's I'm sure there's at least a few Pols with a negative veiw of D&D.

Yeah, I thought that was a prerequisite.

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09/15/2008 9:21 AM  
Posted By thekidxii on 09/08/2008 4:43 AM
Goldfarb's funny as hell apology:

"If my comments caused any harm or hurt to the hard working Americans who play Dungeons & Dragons, I apologize. This campaign is committed to increasing the strength, constitution, dexterity, intelligence, wisdom, and charisma scores of every American."


The comments on the original link  are just gold!
(well I don't know if it tis the original source but still...)




Okay, he gets kudos for a funny reply.

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Posted By paladin72 on 09/11/2008 4:35 PM
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 09/10/2008 2:29 PM
Amusing.......

given the unfortunate and fraudulent Statanist scares of the 1980's I'm sure there's at least a few Pols with a negative veiw of D&D.

Yeah, I thought that was a prerequisite.


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09/21/2008 7:50 PM  
Posted By Wraithborne on 09/11/2008 8:23 AM
Posted By Cthulhufnord on 09/10/2008 2:29 PM
Amusing.......

given the unfortunate and fraudulent Statanist scares of the 1980's I'm sure there's at least a few Pols with a negative veiw of D&D.


You mean you guys don't worship Satan

Oh please.... Devil worship is so Pedestrian and Boring......

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09/24/2008 10:55 AM  
Satan??? I thought it was Demogorgan...

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09/24/2008 1:45 PM  
Nah, he's just a mid-boss after all.
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Satan??? I thought it was Demogorgan...



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09/24/2008 2:52 PM  
So, nobody knows where the full text of Mr Goldfarb's response is?

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09/25/2008 9:47 AM  
Posted By Zagnar on 09/09/2008 5:40 PM
People who don't know what they are talking about are better off just keeping their mouths shut.


Unfortunately, I think that's often not the case.  It seems to me that plenty of people get ahead by spouting nonsense, empty or contradictory messages, and double-speak to cover up the fact that they don't actually know what they are talking about.  I'm sure the *rest* of us would be better off if they would just shut up, though.

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09/30/2008 12:51 AM  
All political silliness aside (and for the most part, most of the politics out there are incredibly silly...), this was some of the funniest stuff I've read in quite a while.

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10/02/2008 9:23 AM  
It's Mr. Goldfarb's fault that Blackleaf died.
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10/03/2008 8:03 AM  
Ok, so does anyone have a link to Goldfarb's reply to WotC? I have asked at least three times already and nobody has responded yet.

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