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| | 09/02/2008 4:27 AM |
| This link is more interesting. How can i get one of those shirts? hmmm
http://mxyzplk.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/4e-killed-gary-gygax/ | |
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bshugg
Underboss
1833 Posts
| | 09/02/2008 5:32 AM |
| | Always sad to hear about people losing jobs. With the fallout over Gleemax, some premier game lines going away and the dropped OGL there had to be some changes at the company. WotC has made some questionable choices in the past 2 years and now its time to clean up after themselves. Hopefully they are keeping the good decision makers and not the bad ones. So far the two announced as confirmed (Gamer Zero and Lurking Lidda) doesn't give me any faith in that. | |
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yack
Commander
3270 Posts
Gatineau Canada
| | 09/02/2008 10:30 AM |
| Like said above it is sad to hear people losing their jobs its a tough time, I have been there. Not familar with Gamer Zero but sorry to hear Lurking Lidda that makes me wonder about their decissions also. I agree they have made some very odd choices over the last 2 years. I'm not blaming 4e or anything like that , its just feels that they are not dedicated to their main fanbase and so pumped to get new players. You don't shoot your best milking cow.
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mege
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67 Posts
| | 09/02/2008 11:49 AM |
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I think that was a very distasteful display of gamer politics at GenCon this year. I can't think of a bigger waste of a person's memory than to use them because you don't like a new game. | | | |
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Raland
Sergeant
916 Posts
| | 09/02/2008 1:43 PM |
| | I think it's pretty funny and even joked the same within days of his death. The layoffs however, are sad. Here's hoping things work out for those involved. Now how can we joke about those? | |
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mazra
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440 Posts
Canton, GA
| | 09/02/2008 5:45 PM |
| Hi Everyone,
It is always sad to hear of layoffs. I can't help but wonder if it is just a Hasbro corporate belt tightening. Big companies in recessions tend to do this. Department heads are told reduce staff by 10% or some amount and decisions are forced.
If it was Gleemax or something more specific, I can't help but wonder what's behind it.
Later,
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Sirohk
Commander
3930 Posts
USA
| | 09/03/2008 3:07 AM |
| Posted By bshugg on 09/02/2008 5:32 AM
Always sad to hear about people losing jobs. So far the two announced as confirmed (Gamer Zero and Lurking Lidda) doesn't give me any faith in that.
Very sad to hear that Gamer Zero and Lurking Lidda (especially after she changed jobs ~last year) are losing there jobs.Â
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Ghendar
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The G Spot
| | 09/03/2008 3:41 AM |
| Posted By mege on 09/02/2008 11:49 AM I think that was a very distasteful display of gamer politics at GenCon this year. I can't think of a bigger waste of a person's memory than to use them because you don't like a new game.
My opinion can be summed up by the following quote taken from that article.
"1. Yes, it’s tasteless, and yes, it’s funny. It’s 2008, get over it. If you live in a flyover state that has a lower than usual irony/postmodern humor quotient, watch a Comedy Central roast or something." | |
WotC - making me wish more and more every day for a return to the TSR days. :(
I fought the snark and the snark won. I'm baaaaaaaaaaack!
Some of my favorite Maxminis quotes
I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM
Could somebody explain Snatch to me? I understand the basics, but not how to enter/use it. - Posted by orcmonk220
G's the man. - Posted By greyhaze on 11/11/2008 8:58 AM | |
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The_Stygian
Skirmisher
5 Posts
| | 09/03/2008 6:17 AM |
| Yeah it is a bummer.I hope its not a damn popularity contest over there. But these are a sign of the times, and if wizards finally decides to stop investing money in pantloads like Maple Story and Dreamblade, maybe we'll end up with a more consistent, better researched, DDM. Or theyll just pull the rug out and make it all digital. That thought makes me want to puke with rage. | | | |
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rob_bda_man
Skirmisher
21 Posts
| | 09/03/2008 8:57 AM |
| Posted By The_Stygian on 09/03/2008 6:17 AM if wizards finally decides to stop investing money in pantloads like Maple Story and Dreamblade, maybe we'll end up with a more consistent, better researched, DDM.
Ain't that the truth! Sad part is I knew Dreamblade would fail. All the marketing background and education in the world didn't help that turd.
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 09/03/2008 3:56 PM |
| Didnt know much about gamer0 except he was figure of some contraversy.
It's sad about lovely lidda though.
Its good that no one on DDM devolpment team was lost. | |
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Wolfgang
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5762 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 09/04/2008 6:41 AM |
| Posted By Ghendar on 09/02/2008 4:27 AM
This link is more interesting. How can i get one of those shirts? hmmm
grab me one also please | |
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Wolfgang
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5762 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 09/04/2008 6:42 AM |
| Its good that no one on DDM devolpment team was lost.
seeing the last two sets maybe they should have been let go | |
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Zagnar
Skirmisher
28 Posts
| | 09/06/2008 7:03 AM |
| Layoffs always suck, I have been through two of them, but they can be good for the company. Hopefully they come through this stronger then before and can make something good of it.
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7675 Posts
Sector 2814
| | 09/15/2008 9:47 AM |
| Also, total layoffs from tis were under 40 people.
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Corim Danex
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6809 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 09/15/2008 10:36 AM |
| | If the layoffs already happened, and the employment is terminated, why would an NDA prevent people from saying who was terminated | |
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Wolfgang
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5762 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 09/15/2008 10:40 AM |
| If the layoffs already happened, and the employment is terminated, why would an NDA prevent people from saying who was terminated
I was just thinking that myself | |
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Montreal, Canada
| | 09/16/2008 1:44 PM |
| I was talking with the guy at my FLGS, he says they used to order 400 cases whenever a new set came out and they would sell out!
With the last few sets they ordered only 60 cases and had trouble selling them.
DDM seems to be in trouble.
This is probably what the layoffs are all about.
On the positive side 4th Ed. RPG is selling great.
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Corim Danex
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6809 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 09/16/2008 8:11 PM |
| | I do not feel that 4th edition is a positive thing. | |
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Gryfalia
Sneak
105 Posts
| | 09/17/2008 2:05 PM |
| Posted By the other guy on 09/16/2008 1:44 PM
I was talking with the guy at my FLGS, he says they used to order 400 cases whenever a new set came out and they would sell out!
With the last few sets they ordered only 60 cases and had trouble selling them.
DDM seems to be in trouble.
This is probably what the layoffs are all about.
On the positive side 4th Ed. RPG is selling great.
I keep reading the 400 case thing and pondering it and coming up with 'not a chance in the world as we know it'..UNLESS they are including internet sales. I mean, let's pretend a store has 200 DDM/D&D players (that's a pretty high number, but hey, why not ) That would still require them to buy 2 cases EACH to hit those kind of numbers.
Of course, mebbe Canadians are mini-crazy, who knows  ;-)
On the local front, DDM sales are steady (or actually up a bit).
4th ed is selling quite nicely, which makes me happy..hehe. | |
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mazra
Sergeant
440 Posts
Canton, GA
| | 09/17/2008 2:32 PM |
| Posted By Corim Danex on 09/16/2008 8:11 PM
I do not feel that 4th edition is a positive thing.
Hi CD,
Maybe it will grow on me, but I am feeling this way too. They moved too far away from the traditional fantasy elements that come from old lore or the early 1.0 game. I know they were trying to be different; but different for the sake of different is not always a good thing. I am still having problems with the Tiefling as a core race. I wouldn't have a problem if the Tiefling was allowed as a player character in special circumstances, just not core, and the same with the Dragonborns.
On a positive note, the game mechanics are more stream-lined. Making the game simpler to play is not a bad thing as long as depth of play is not sacrificed. It looks like they may have achieved this.
Later,
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Lord_rock
Underboss
2023 Posts
Portland OR
| | 09/17/2008 3:24 PM |
| My only complaint is that it is very restrictive (or will be soon) without the crap ton of suppliments that they will put out. there are a ton of powers in the PHB for each class but a few are obviously superior in most circumstances...
The tie in to minis and a grid will keep ddm going for awhile but that doesn't mean it won't suffer a lot. | |
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Thenameless
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The Fortress of Solitude
| | 09/20/2008 5:23 PM |
| Posted By the other guy on 09/16/2008 1:44 PM
I was talking with the guy at my FLGS, he says they used to order 400 cases whenever a new set came out and they would sell out!
With the last few sets they ordered only 60 cases and had trouble selling them.
DDM seems to be in trouble.
This is probably what the layoffs are all about.
On the positive side 4th Ed. RPG is selling great.
There's been a drop in sales here in Vancouver too, but nothing that drastic. | |
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Wraithborne
Commander
4490 Posts
The Red Light District
| | 09/20/2008 5:27 PM |
| Posted By Thenameless on 09/20/2008 5:23 PM Posted By the other guy on 09/16/2008 1:44 PM
I was talking with the guy at my FLGS, he says they used to order 400 cases whenever a new set came out and they would sell out!
With the last few sets they ordered only 60 cases and had trouble selling them.
DDM seems to be in trouble.
This is probably what the layoffs are all about.
On the positive side 4th Ed. RPG is selling great.
There's been a drop in sales here in Vancouver too, but nothing that drastic.
FLGS here has only sold 2 boosters of AtG
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Corim Danex
Warlord
6809 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 09/21/2008 7:06 PM |
| Posted By rob_bda_man on 09/03/2008 8:57 AM Posted By The_Stygian on 09/03/2008 6:17 AM if wizards finally decides to stop investing money in pantloads like Maple Story and Dreamblade, maybe we'll end up with a more consistent, better researched, DDM.
Ain't that the truth! Sad part is I knew Dreamblade would fail. All the marketing background and education in the world didn't help that turd.
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Wolfgang
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5762 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 09/21/2008 8:08 PM |
| I thought Rob was banned from maxminis.
why? do tell? | |
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Bert the Troll
Commander
3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 09/21/2008 8:35 PM |
| The mod team know re rob's account, and are okay with his rejoining us. (the ban was a few years old (?) and probably should of expired naturally anyhow.)
I'd rather old tales re reasons why banned were left in past.
'nuff said? | |
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Wolfgang
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5762 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 09/22/2008 10:00 AM |
| I'd rather old tales re reasons why banned were left in past.
ok whatever just wondering thats all | |
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AnarionZelle
Underboss
1172 Posts
USA
| | 09/22/2008 5:56 PM |
| Apparently, there has also been some reassigning of duties: WotC: Mike Mearls and Rob Heinsoo change roles.
http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/241247-wizards-coast-mike-mearls-rob-heinsoo-change-roles.html | |
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