vanrulzz
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| Ok, so in this wizards boards thread
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?p=14640124#post14640124
There are Against the Giants Huge Set art. Apparently a Huge Silver and a fire giant. But wait! theres more! after all the fire giant guesses Shoe made a reply.
Technically, not a fire *giant*.
But close, very close.
And still very awesome.
anyone have a clue what it could be?
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| | 12/21/2007 11:48 AM |
| | It's 4th edition, the giant could be anything and we can't know what exactly it is. | |
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| | 12/21/2007 12:35 PM |
| | It has to have some core no...? | |
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| | 12/21/2007 12:54 PM |
| For some reason, I can't seem to access those images... :*(
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| | 12/21/2007 1:16 PM |
| | Maybe it's Pelor and Bahumut. Or "GiantS" - plural? | |
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kritter
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| | 12/21/2007 1:40 PM |
| magma giant?
notice the cracked skin , dripping sword and smoke in the background. | |
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TheChuck
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Mississippi, USA
| | 12/21/2007 2:59 PM |
| Instead of giants could they be titans? Instead of a Fire Giant it would be a Fire Titan, which would fill much the same role, only get rid of one or the other. Not that that many people actually use titans.
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vanrulzz
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Sirohk
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| | 12/21/2007 3:33 PM |
| It looks like it is coming out of the rock, so maybe a new Stone Giant.Â
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| | 12/21/2007 6:40 PM |
| Posted By Sirohk on 12/21/2007 3:33 PM It looks like it is coming out of the rock, so maybe a new Stone Giant.Â
Probably not. Shoe did say not technically a fire "giant". So fire something or other is in there. | |
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Olaf the Stout
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| | 12/21/2007 11:20 PM |
| If they're going to give us a Huge Silver after we got Bahamut last set there had better be Huge Green and Huge Blue Dragons as well. I'd even forgo a Huge Red resculpt if it meant we got these 2 Dragons. A White would be nice too.  Olaf the Stout | |
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Olaf the Stout
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| | 12/21/2007 11:35 PM |
| Fire Titan is almost a certainty. In the latest 4E preview book it mentions Fire and Earth Titans.  Olaf the Stout | |
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| | 12/22/2007 12:23 AM |
| Posted By Olaf the Stout on 12/21/2007 11:20 PM If they're going to give us a Huge Silver after we got Bahamut last set there had better be Huge Green and Huge Blue Dragons as well. I'd even forgo a Huge Red resculpt if it meant we got these 2 Dragons. A White would be nice too.  Olaf the Stout
I'm not going to be too greedy. If we get one of either the Huge Green or Huge Blue, I'll be happy. They have to save something for future huge sets.
A Huge White would rock, but with the recent release of Icingdeath, I doubt it'll be in this next huge set.
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Count Dooku
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| | 12/22/2007 4:25 AM |
| Posted By Olaf the Stout on 12/21/2007 11:35 PM Fire Titan is almost a certainty. In the latest 4E preview book it mentions Fire and Earth Titans.
I guess its the 4th edition set so I'm preparign for A LOT of these dissapointments in the weeks to come.
And why does WotC love Fire so much? If there is a creature that is elemental we always get fire first (or even worse...exclusivly).
The very first Large Elementals released in a set we got fire..First and only Huge Elemental is Fire...Same with our only Small Elemental. The first Mephit we got was fire and first 4th Edition Elemental Archon was Fire.
Why is that? Is fire everyones favorite element or something?
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Count Dooku
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| | 12/22/2007 4:28 AM |
| Posted By Olaf the Stout on 12/21/2007 11:20 PM I'd even forgo a Huge Red resculpt if it meant we got these 2 Dragons.
The only allowable resculpt in my mind would be a Male Storm Giant.
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Count Dooku
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| | 12/22/2007 4:29 AM |
| | IÂ find it rather silly if the Silver Dragon is Medium or Large. If it is then yeah resculpt and its no big deal. Its the comment that the Aspect of Bhamut from WotDQ is a good enough proxy so they didnt make a Huge Silver Dragon that I find odd. Why make that comment when you know someone (like me) will make a snarky comment like "Why make a Medium or Large Silver Dragon when the Medium Silver Dragon from Underdark and Large Silver Dragon from Archfields make good proxies?" Just seems silly to point out that you arent making a creature we dont have because it can be proxied while you are showing off that you are making a RESCULPT instead. | |
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| | back too back huge silvers isnt the best idea. i would rather have another huge red. $100 is a little steep for the old 1 and the read has a higher rpg value. Get ready for a lot of "wasted spots" 4thed is here wether you are converting or not | |
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| | 12/22/2007 7:07 AM |
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| | 12/22/2007 8:15 AM |
| | I'm interested to see how WotC will differentiate the newer large silver from the original. Hopefully, it will be something interesting like the new Capricious Copper Dragon. | |
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| | 12/22/2007 10:24 AM |
| Posted By Olaf the Stout on 12/21/2007 11:20 PM If they're going to give us a Huge Silver after we got Bahamut last set there had better be Huge Green and Huge Blue Dragons as well. I'd even forgo a Huge Red resculpt if it meant we got these 2 Dragons. A White would be nice too.  Olaf the Stout
You would forego a huge red resculpt? (huh?) I don't want to see another huge red until all the five chromatics and metallics have been done once each. And I would be much more interested in a huge black (which wouldn't really be a resculpt since the first one was mounted) than a resculpted huge red.
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| | 12/22/2007 12:04 PM |
| Look at the 2nd pic, the body of this giant is like the body on Ben Green (Fantastic 4) so I think is some kind of Magma Giant.
Maybe 4th edition bring to us some elemental Giant like Ice Giant, Magma Giant and not Giants with only some affinity to elements!
Ice Giant (with beard of Ice and not like Frost giant with Normal blue hair beard). Do you know what I mean? | |
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zenthrus
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| | 12/22/2007 12:35 PM |
| Another Huge Silver. Wee. I hope it doesn't look quite as much like a duck as Bahamut, but regardless, it's still a mini I have no need for.
A huge magma? giant would be pretty spiff. Large would be better (since it would work as a fire giant as well).
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zenthrus
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| | 12/22/2007 12:37 PM |
| Posted By Count Dooku on 12/22/2007 4:25 AM
And why does WotC love Fire so much? If there is a creature that is elemental we always get fire first (or even worse...exclusivly).
Fire is the easiest "wow" factor element when using clear plastic. Additionally, it's much easier to sculpt flames than it is to sculpt air.
It also can't help when earth elementals are dubbed "Ben Grimm" and the "Large Poo Elemental." 
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Olaf the Stout
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| | 12/22/2007 6:21 PM |
| Posted By Count Dooku on 12/22/2007 4:28 AM Posted By Olaf the Stout on 12/21/2007 11:20 PM I'd even forgo a Huge Red resculpt if it meant we got these 2 Dragons. I dont agree. A Huge Red resculpt would be terrible. We have a mere 24 huges. To do resculpts now would be a horrible disservice to RPGers. The only allowable resculpt in my mind would be a Male Storm Giant.
I don't think I was clear enough. Based on what you have said here, you are agreeing with me. I am saying that I'd rather see a Huge Green and Huge Blue Dragon before another Huge Red. I could see them doing another Huge Red since they are very popular (more people will buy boosters to try and get one) and they are very expensive to get in the secondary market.
To give a prime example, the Beholder is being released again in the next set. We got one in Deathknell and then another in Unhallowed. Yet the 3rd set after Unhallowed, Dungeons of Dread will see the release of a 3rd Beholder mini. Obviously WotC know that Beholders sell so they keep putting out slightly different versions of them.
By the same thinking, I think that a Large Red Dragon will almost certainly be in the Dungeons of Dread set, simply because it will get people buying the minis to try and get one.
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Count Dooku
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| | 12/23/2007 4:32 AM |
| Oh Ok I DID misunderstand you Olaf. I guess now that you clarified I totally agree with you :) I know 4th edition is a brand new game so 90% of minis in the next 2 sets will be resculpts or 4th edition exclusive stuff. But dispite this we definitly need to see new huges. There arent enough of them to make any resculps yet. | |
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mazra
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| | 12/23/2007 6:42 AM |
| Hi Everyone,
Fee Fi Fo Fum! Jack in the beanstalk! It is a CLOUD GIANT!
My guess it too will be capricious in some way. :)
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iluvxtina
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1499 Posts
Spain
| | 12/23/2007 7:05 AM |
| | Only a question: it is not supposed that huge black puddin will appear in the next huge set? I would be very plaesed with this one (I cannot really understand why they have not released green slime yet) | |
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iluvxtina
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| | 12/23/2007 7:06 AM |
| | Oh....And I strongly dislike a huge silver dragon (enough with this ugly bahamut) | |
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yack
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Gatineau Canada
| | 12/23/2007 7:13 AM |
| Posted By iluvxtina on 12/23/2007 7:05 AM
Only a question: it is not supposed that huge black puddin will appear in the next huge set? I would be very plaesed with this one (I cannot really understand why they have not released green slime yet)
They have not done a green slime because it's not a monster in 3.5 it's more like a trap/hazzard. Yes I was against it too!
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warchanter
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| | 12/23/2007 2:45 PM |
| I think this bit of news taken from enworld.org may clear up a bit about the "giant" picture (copy & paste):
I just picked up the latest issue of Game Trade Magazine this evening. It has two pages from Wizards Presents - Worlds and Monsters on giants.
It gives a background on the giants as being servants to "primordials" during the shaping of the world. Titans were first and had elemental ties (earth titans, fire titans). They created the lesser giants.
It also mentions similar creatures arose Feywild and Shadowfell. The formorians arose in the Feywild and death giants in the Shadowfell.
The giants had large empires in the ancient world. The giants enslaved the dwarves and the formorians created the cyclops as slaves. The death giants created lesser versions of themselves. The death giants also took gnomes and fey as slaves as well as being worshipped by dark creepers. Those empires eventually fell during the war between the primordials and the gods.
From a design standpoint they mention all giants have a more elemental basis. After a round with a storm giant you'll know what the monster has to do with both "storm" and "giant." They are distancing "giant" from including everything big & tall. Ogres, trolls, etc. aren't necessarily giants anymore.
All giants have two versions, a Large and Huge version. The huge versions are tied more closely to their elemental natures and have stronger elemental powers.
They have a picture of a cyclops (pretty much the Desert of Desolation miniature) and a mountain giant. The mountain giant looks pretty much like stone in a humanoid form (it's closer to an earth elemental than a stone golem). | |
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Dordledum
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3215 Posts
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| | 12/25/2007 2:30 AM |
| Bahamut was not a real Silver Dragon! I'd still like one actually. Fire Titan is ok with me, rather have a Frost (Ice?) Titan though.
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Mjollnir
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| | 12/25/2007 2:45 AM |
| Posted By Count Dooku on 12/23/2007 4:32 AM But dispite this we definitly need to see new huges. There arent enough of them to make any resculps yet.
Absolutely agree. Still waiting for the Nalfeshnee, Aboleth, the rest of Elementals, Titan, Goristro, Athach, Hydra, Blue and Green Dragons,...
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778 Posts
| | 12/26/2007 3:59 AM |
| Is everyone forgetting the most obvious anwer to Shoe's trickery?
Not Technically a Fire "Giant"...
MEANS....
It's a Fire Giantess....
Female Fire Giant... | |
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| | 12/26/2007 5:33 AM |
| Posted By Dordledum on 12/25/2007 2:30 AM
Bahamut was not a real Silver Dragon! As I recall, not Silver at all, but Platinum.
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| | 12/26/2007 4:01 PM |
| Hmm, I'm not liking the push away from giants and titans being distinct. They should be two separate types.
Grrr...
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| | 12/27/2007 10:48 AM |
| Posted By Count Dooku on 12/22/2007 4:25 AM
And why does WotC love Fire so much? If there is a creature that is elemental we always get fire first (or even worse...exclusivly).
The very first Large Elementals released in a set we got fire..First and only Huge Elemental is Fire...Same with our only Small Elemental. The first Mephit we got was fire and first 4th Edition Elemental Archon was Fire.
Why is that? Is fire everyones favorite element or something?
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Michael
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251 Posts
Sydney, Australia
| | 12/27/2007 2:51 PM |
| I'd be super happy for a huge silver dragon. That mini would already jump my interest in "Against the Giants" to a 10/10 level. But reading the comments, and since we had a medium and large silver so far, I'm afraid it could be a small silver dragon.
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greyhaze
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5991 Posts
| | 12/27/2007 7:01 PM |
| | It's more than likely a large, all we know is that it won't be a huge... and as for already having a large/medium - it's irrelevant when referencing the large copper dragon. | |
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Bert the Troll
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| | 01/01/2008 9:03 PM |
| Posted By lingster on 12/26/2007 3:59 AM
Is everyone forgetting the most obvious anwer to Shoe's trickery?
Not Technically a Fire "Giant"...
MEANS....
It's a Fire Giantess....
Female Fire Giant...
Lol - that could well be true.
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