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17 Jul 2007 06:30 PM  
D&D Miniatures Game Starter Set contains 5 non-random pre-painted figures, cards, 2 battle grids, and rules. Figures come from Dungeons of Dread  series. $19.99 April 8, 2008



D&D Dungeons of Dread Booster Pack contains 8 random prepainted figs. $14.99 April 8, 2008



From the Wizards catalogue, courtesy of Thalmin on the EN World boards.



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17 Jul 2007 06:40 PM  
More dragons. Looks like WotC is making up for the less than great skirmish dragons (or lack of dragons minis period) in past sets.

I wonder if there's gonna be a mind flayer in that set too. I'm not so sure mind flayers are in the starter sets only know seeing as we got a lich this set. Unless this was supposed to be a starter set, but it was delayed as such to the 15th set.
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17 Jul 2007 06:42 PM  
Thanks Merric!

Only 5 minis?!? first 16, then 12 and now 5......sheesh.
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17 Jul 2007 06:49 PM  
Thanks...the 5 minis and non random thing seems weird though.
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17 Jul 2007 06:51 PM  
The starter set contains a Large Green Dragon, Human Sellsword, Elf Warlock, Dwarf Battlemaster, and Exiled Drow Fighter. The rules have been updated for faster play in an easy-to-reference format. The starter is in a clear blister package. No theme is given for this set, other than it will include some figures drawn from key 2008 D&D titles. The catalog contains no pictures for the D&D minis, not even cover art.
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17 Jul 2007 06:57 PM  
I have mixed feelings about this.... not very keen on a large green dragon being in a non random booster if it is really the same green dragon from WOTDQ. Man alot of us fought to get the ones we have.
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17 Jul 2007 07:09 PM  
Man! Only 5 figures, and one of then is the Large Green Dragon?? Is this Dragon is the same of WotDQ? It has another pose? Same stats or something else?

just two batlemaps or 2 side battlemaps?

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17 Jul 2007 08:01 PM  
I'm curious to see if this starter set will be well-received or not. War Drums had a couple of non-random pieces, but I'm not sure if a transparent blister is the way to go.
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17 Jul 2007 08:02 PM  
How many starter sets do you need? 1, maybe 2.

I don't see this as being a big difference as the previous ones.

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17 Jul 2007 08:04 PM  
The figures come from Dungeon of Dread but one of those figures is a large green dragon? Seems weird that we'd get another Large Green Dragon already.

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17 Jul 2007 08:19 PM  

I, like most people, will be hoping that the LGD at least has a different pose to the WotDQ one.

 

Personally I am a little surprised by the choice of a Green Dragon.  I understand that they wouldn't do Black as that came out in Unhallowed.   White came out in Night Below.  That leaves Green, Red and Blue.  Blue is in the Basic boxed set which may have ruled that out.  Out of Green and Red I would have picked Red every time.

 

Maybe they didn't want to piss off either people that had collected since the beginning or those people that had paid $30+ to buy a LRD?

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17 Jul 2007 08:30 PM  
Well technically there was a large red dragon in Blood War with the Githyanki Dragon Knight.

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17 Jul 2007 08:41 PM  
New starter = good
Non-random = questionable
New rules = questionable (hopefully good, maybe line templates?)
Release date = weird

Maybe Dungeons of Dread will come out in March, like usual, and then the blister starter will come out in April? I hope a WotC insider hops on this thread.

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17 Jul 2007 08:42 PM  
You are correct jacksonm, there was a LRD in Blood War.  However, it doesn't count in my (and probably only my) opinion.  For RPG purposes, people want dragons that don't have creatures mounted on their back (or at least I do).

I remember using the Huge Black Dragon from the WotDQ in a session once.  The first question the players asked was who the person on the back of the Dragon was.  The  second question was why was he there!

In any case, a Red Dragon is just iconic.  Why not go for the iconic?  You will get more non-skirmish people buying the starter set just so they can get a Large Red Dragon.  Out of them, some people are sure to give the skirmish game that comes with the set a try.

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Posted By Olaf the Stout on 07/17/2007 8:42 PM
You are correct jacksonm, there was a LRD in Blood War.  However, it doesn't count in my (and probably only my) opinion.  For RPG purposes, people want dragons that don't have creatures mounted on their back (or at least I do).

I remember using the Huge Black Dragon from the WotDQ in a session once.  The first question the players asked was who the person on the back of the Dragon was.  The  second question was why was he there!

In any case, a Red Dragon is just iconic.  Why not go for the iconic?  You will get more non-skirmish people buying the starter set just so they can get a Large Red Dragon.  Out of them, some people are sure to give the skirmish game that comes with the set a try.

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Yes, I agree on the red dragons being more desirable in general.  Good point about non-skirmishers maybe giving the game a try.
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17 Jul 2007 09:55 PM  
Thanks for the heads up, Merric. I'd like to see that catalog somehow.
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17 Jul 2007 10:00 PM  
Will have to see if the starter is worth it, 5 minis, cards, rules & 2 battle grids (is that opposed to battle maps?)

I also thought it was weird that the date is April 8th instead of March, typo or something to do with the release schedule?

It dungeon of dread a specific older module like Desert of Desolation?
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17 Jul 2007 10:11 PM  
Interesting stuff. A little soon for another large green, but nice nonetheless. The Large Greens from DQ are a bit above my price bracket. Large Blacks much more so, but it's way too soon for a LBD reissue/resculpt.

Two DoD sets (desert of desolation and dungeons of dread)? Shoe just wants to confuse everyone
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18 Jul 2007 01:29 AM  
I'd have preferred another (unmounted) LRD myself as well.

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18 Jul 2007 02:24 AM  
A large green dragon so soon? That's weird... I'd much rather see an unmounted large red (the large green is my least favourite chromatic). Mounted dragons don't count for me either. I'd also like to see a huge black with nothing on it at some point.

The character types sound somewhat interesting...
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18 Jul 2007 02:25 AM  
Maybe these figs will be exclusive to this starter and people won't have the opportunity to get them otherwise.

I don't have LGD, so it's good for me
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Posted By Vrecknidj on 07/17/2007 8:41 PM
New starter = good
Non-random = questionable
New rules = questionable (hopefully good, maybe line templates?)
Release date = weird

Maybe Dungeons of Dread will come out in March, like usual, and then the blister starter will come out in April? I hope a WotC insider hops on this thread.

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18 Jul 2007 03:59 AM  
Dunno. 20 bucks for:

2 MAPS
5 RARE FIGURES
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I think it's a good price. I'll get at least 1, if not 2. just for the maps alone.
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18 Jul 2007 04:08 AM  
A starter with only 5 minis non random at that....

As a collector I hate it
As someone who thinks "Hey this might help grow the skrimish side of the game hell YA"

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18 Jul 2007 05:46 AM  
Posted By lingster on 07/18/2007 3:59 AM
5 RARE FIGURES
All of them are rare? I think that's too much for 20 buchs.

My bet is no more than two rares (but probably just the dragon).


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18 Jul 2007 05:51 AM  
hopefully the starter set isnt a resell of older mins but i have a feeling it is. star wars did it with rare such as vader tarkin and others. any chance other figures are just renamed older figures similiar to basic set?
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18 Jul 2007 05:57 AM  
I think the Green Dragon is just another example of Wizards trying to get more money (Like bringing out 4th edition). As it has been said, people really wanted them.
jacksonm is right, they did release a red dragon in blood war. It didn't fair as well as the Large Green in sales (I'm pretty sure). Wizards must have seen that. Along with the fact that people payed good money to get them, they re-released it. Just like the Drow Outpost map.
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18 Jul 2007 06:11 AM  
I think it's kinda early to jump on either side of the fence....

personally, I'm just happy that there is a 15th set coming....

Dungeons of Dread is pretty cooll.... but isn't that going to be a bit weird right after Deserts of Desolation or whatever?
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18 Jul 2007 06:40 AM  
It's pretty simple that they aren't going to put a LRD in a nonrandom pack as it's a highly collectable figure. Marketing would want it in the boosters in order to drive the sales for it. I'll be surprised if they ever put a beholder or something that is also high wanted in a fixed box. I'm kinda surprised they are doing a dragon. I can't say I like the 5 figures in the set though for the same price. now if it was a hugh green dragon, that would take some of the sting away from it.
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18 Jul 2007 06:56 AM  
So it sounds to me like they're changing the starter packs to suit one player as opposed to 2...unless 1 person gets the dragon and the other player gets the rest...or is the aim that each player needs their own starter pack?
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