sage_raistlin
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 | | 11 Aug 2006 10:51 AM | | Anyone want to take a stab at how much this is going to cap at for price. Anyone think that Raistlin is going to give Drizzt a run for his money.
I can't wait to get this one (not that anyone would be able to guess that.) | | Hello Boys, I'm Back
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jgsugden
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| | 11 Aug 2006 10:54 AM | | quote:
Originally posted by sage_raistlin
Anyone want to take a stab at how much this is going to cap at for price. Anyone think that Raistlin is going to give Drizzt a run for his money.
I can't wait to get this one (not that anyone would be able to guess that.)
Drizzt is expensive for a few reasons... one of which is that there were relatively few of him produced as he was in an early set. Raistlin will be produced in far, far, far greater numbers. I expect him to be priced in the same mold as a slightly more expensive Elminster... He won't come close to the Drizzt territory... ever. | | Champion of Meepo _*_ Myztek on the Wizards Boards. _*_ (2206 DDM on 03/06/06)
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yack
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| | 11 Aug 2006 10:59 AM | | I agree Raistlin is popular but not even close too the fanboys of Drizzt. | | | "Wtf is Heroscape? I play D&D." ScruffyRanger
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RobWreck
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| | 11 Aug 2006 11:09 AM | | Which is a shame... Raistlin's such a better character than Drittz. Raistlin showed what the real power and ambition of a mage can be... Drittz is boring and bland.
Rob
PS: Can't wait to see the Epic card for Raistlin... he'd have to be LE, right? There are no serious spellcasters in CE, are there? | | Champion of Aspect of Pelor
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Orion72
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| | 11 Aug 2006 11:11 AM | | quote:
Originally posted by RobWreck
There are no serious spellcasters in CE, are there?
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 11 Aug 2006 11:13 AM | | Not a chance. He is nowhere near as popular a character and there are going to be far more copies of it made than there were of Drizzt. He'll likley be no more valuable than any other average rare. The main deciding factor will be how useful he is in skirmish. | | Champion of the Gelatinous Cube. Nemesis of Gnomes and Dinosaurs.
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Lab Monkey
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| | 11 Aug 2006 11:14 AM | | If they do a repaint of Raistlin (with the alternative color robes: Red or Black) I expect the price to go through the roof.
Normal Raist I suspect will be similar to Elminster as jgs suggests. | | Have: Cat; Want: Storm Giant
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ehren37
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| | 11 Aug 2006 11:25 AM | | quote:
Originally posted by sage_raistlin
Anyone want to take a stab at how much this is going to cap at for price. Anyone think that Raistlin is going to give Drizzt a run for his money.
I can't wait to get this one (not that anyone would be able to guess that.)
Not a chance in hell. He'll be a 9 dollar figure or so. His popularity is roughly on par with the other uber mary sue, Elminster. How much did Elminster fetch on release? While they dont release print run info, I think that they are making larger productions with each set (look how much longer sets are available, and the product is more populer than ever). That means there will be more Raistlins than Elminsters, of which there were a hell of a lot more than Drizzt. | | Completed trades: Zarnof, Salmander, Pigsnot, qillan_dvra, SilgentG, Ironfist Boulderbender, robdaman.
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ehren37
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| | 11 Aug 2006 11:26 AM | | quote:
Originally posted by RobWreck
Which is a shame... Raistlin's such a better character than Drittz. Raistlin showed what the real power and ambition of a mage can be... Drittz is boring and bland.
Rob
PS: Can't wait to see the Epic card for Raistlin... he'd have to be LE, right? There are no serious spellcasters in CE, are there?
I really have to disagree. Raistlin was pretty cool in the trilogy. After that, he became another stupid god character. | | Completed trades: Zarnof, Salmander, Pigsnot, qillan_dvra, SilgentG, Ironfist Boulderbender, robdaman.
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The Beer Baron
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| | 11 Aug 2006 11:34 AM | | Raistlin would never be worth as much as Drizzt. It pains me to say it because I'm a DragonLance fan, and not a Drizzt fan. They are making more minis this time around, and people are more clued into getting sets and dupes of possible chase peices. Sure he will be valued at more than usual, that you can bet on. But he's no Drizzt.
I think in the original modules Raistlin was Neutral, and slipped into being Neutral Evil. My guess is as a mini he'd be LE/CE. | | "GameKnight Games and Cool Stuff
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| | 11 Aug 2006 11:35 AM | | plus when the movie comes out his popolartity hopefully will raise the roof. way more poplular than elminster anddrizzt is valued more becuase the set is retired. raistlin will have that same value in a few years when he is also hard to get
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Amator
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| | 11 Aug 2006 11:48 AM | | I'm thinking the non-epic would be Any and epic would be LE. My reasoning is that in the trilogy Raistlin traveled with the companions not because they were good but because their paths followed the same roads for a time. He's willing to work with anyone who can help increase his arcane power. When he becomes a black robe, he'd be LE as his alignment is NE, but I don't see him working with CE for similar reasons that the LN Marut is LG only in DDM. Willing to work with anyone initially, but once his power is achieved, he settles down to LE.
It would totally rock if Raistlin had Warband Building: Any creature with the word Majere in their name is legal in your warband.
Anyone think of spells and abilities Raist might have?
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Thailfi
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956 Posts
| | 11 Aug 2006 11:56 AM | | You know, I just never got the appeal of Raistlin. Sickly guy raises himself to power and treats everyone, including family and lovers, like dirt. I certainly never identified with him.
Now I certainly don't think that Drizz't is a great literary figure either, but I'll take him over Raistlin. | | Thailfi's Have/Want List
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5729 Posts
| | 11 Aug 2006 12:20 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey
If they do a repaint of Raistlin (with the alternative color robes: Red or Black) I expect the price to go through the roof.
Man, that would be cool.... quote:
Originally poster by Thailfi
You know, I just never got the appeal of Raistlin. Sickly guy raises himself to power and treats everyone, including family and lovers, like dirt. I certainly never identified with him.
Now I certainly don't think that Drizz't is a great literary figure either, but I'll take him over Raistlin.
I think Drizzt is getting old and am finding the side characters' stories more interesting. I am guessing that gamers like Raistlin so much is because maybe they can relate (being picked on or outcasts, etc wanting power over 'the popular' crowd). | | Originally posted by Schooly_D
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Amator
Sneak
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| | 11 Aug 2006 12:25 PM | | He certainly isn't a heroic character. I think most of the appeal is that Raist shows the evolution of a power-hungry mage. He starts out as kind of a jerk, but there when his friends need him and then sells his physical health and a good chunk of his identity for arcane might and can eventually defeat a goddess.
I'm much more of a fan of Tanis and Sturm as characters. | | | Champion of Szass Tam | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 11 Aug 2006 12:30 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Thailfi
You know, I just never got the appeal of Raistlin. Sickly guy raises himself to power and treats everyone, including family and lovers, like dirt. I certainly never identified with him.
Ditto. Plus the whole ">cough cough< look how dark and mysterious and tortured and stuff I am >cough cough<" thing wore off real damned fast. | | Champion of the Gelatinous Cube. Nemesis of Gnomes and Dinosaurs.
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PaSquall
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| | 11 Aug 2006 01:07 PM | | I don't see it ever reaching Drizt prices. It might get a bit more expensive than elminster, but not much. As others said, it will be produced in a far larger number than Drizt. | | Vindicated Champion of the PSEUDODRAGON
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Monsoon28
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| | 11 Aug 2006 01:12 PM | | Well the Chronicles and Legends were great stories, Raistlin was an interesting character (but not one to relate to) same with Drizzt.
Both have their fanboyz and haters and both are/were highly sought after.
Drizzt will continue to be the value piece, coming from the valuable and hard to find Archfiends set. But I wouldn't be suprised if Raistlin were a more valued piece then Elminster.
Personally I'd prefer a Erevis Cale mini, or if from the same novels as the two character in this topic Bruenor, Flint or Tasslehoff would personally interest me more then the fan-favourites. | | "I was sittin' here eatin' my muffin, drinkin' my coffee, replayin' the incident in my head, when I had what alcoholics refer to as a moment of clarity." - Jules Winnfield
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Corim Danex
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| | 11 Aug 2006 01:27 PM | | I don't really like Raistlin. I liked him a bit in the first book. After that, it was all downhill for him.
I don't think his value will ever come even remotely near Drizzt's value. I am still baffled by the Drizzt pricing. | | "Look to God and live." Alma 37:47
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glumag
Warlord
5968 Posts
| | 11 Aug 2006 02:11 PM | | I will assume that Raistlin will be a middle point between Driz'zt and Elms. Much higher than Elms tho. If Raistlin has a promo with the black robes I think it'll get close to Driz'zt price range. | | | Trades >> Completed: 49 | Bad: Ø | Pending: 0 | Trade & talk Live on IRC! SERVER: irc.psionics.net CHANNEL: #maxminis | |
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shadroth
Warrior
213 Posts
| | 11 Aug 2006 02:21 PM | | What on Earth are you all talking about? Raistlin hasn't even been confirmed ... has he? I may be out of the loop here. | | | | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
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| | 11 Aug 2006 02:42 PM | | At Gen Con he is confirmed in Unhallowed. | | | Champion of a Knight of Takhisis/Knight of Neraka | |
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Thailfi
Sergeant
956 Posts
| | 11 Aug 2006 02:47 PM | | I don't understand why Drizz't has a ton of value. You know what I want from my unique minis? I want to be able to use them as something else. So bring on;
Goldmoon, Tika, Caramon, Sturm, Flint, Tasselhoff, Laurana, Crysania, Alhana, Gilthanas, Riverwind, Dalamar, Kitiara, Verminaard, Fewmaster Toade, Ariakas, and many more, but leave Raistlin at home.
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greyhaze
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| | 11 Aug 2006 03:29 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Thailfi
You know, I just never got the appeal of Raistlin. Sickly guy raises himself to power and treats everyone, including family and lovers, like dirt. I certainly never identified with him.
It's the ultimate revenge of the underdog, instead of finding power and staying a good guy he traversed towards the dark side. It's what Luke would have become had he been more obsessed with power than with his friendships. I think we can all relate to Raistlin a little, wondering just how far we could have gone over that intangable line, and as a result we can then understand the appeal of slipping further to the darkside like Raistlin did (or Vader did). It like a story about Darth Vader, but not lamely done. | | Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
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| | 11 Aug 2006 04:21 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Lab Monkey
If they do a repaint of Raistlin (with the alternative color robes: Red or Black) I expect the price to go through the roof.
Normal Raist I suspect will be similar to Elminster as jgs suggests.
I do hope that they do this, but not for the pricing. And red robed as LG/(CG??) and Black as LE. | | First peon to make it to "Knight Warlord"
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Count Dooku
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| | 11 Aug 2006 04:27 PM | | Im sure we are all in agreement that if there is no promo and only one color was done...We would all want the Red more right? | | Champion of the Skulk
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| | 11 Aug 2006 04:35 PM | | No. I'd much prefer the LE (black-robed) version. | | Championed by PatEllis15
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Sulaco
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1605 Posts
| | 11 Aug 2006 04:47 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Count Dooku
Im sure we are all in agreement that if there is no promo and only one color was done...We would all want the Red more right?
I honestly could not care less. Whatever colour works best with the sculpt is the one they should use, be it black, red, white, green, blue or yellow. | | Champion of the Gelatinous Cube. Nemesis of Gnomes and Dinosaurs.
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greyhaze
Warlord
10590 Posts
| | 11 Aug 2006 05:01 PM | | I like the look of the red better, but either way, I want him in LE. | | Champion of a Medium Dog & then a Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60,
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The Beer Baron
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| | 11 Aug 2006 05:42 PM | | quote:
Originally posted by Thailfi
I don't understand why Drizz't has a ton of value. You know what I want from my unique minis? I want to be able to use them as something else. So bring on;
Goldmoon, Tika, Caramon, Sturm, Flint, Tasselhoff, Laurana, Crysania, Alhana, Gilthanas, Riverwind, Dalamar, Kitiara, Verminaard, Fewmaster Toade, Ariakas, and many more, but leave Raistlin at home.
Good point. When I played Dragonlance as a PC I was Flint Fireforge and Tasslehoff Burrfoot. And I think I'd also prefer to get Tanis, Kitiara, Caramon and Tika before Raistlin.
If Raistlin has been confirmed...is there any hint/confirmation/rumour/wild speculation that they will do any other Dragonlance iconic figures? We have Lord Soth and some draconians...but what about Kender or Gully Dwarves? Kitiara on a Huge Blue Dragon would be really sweet too. | | "GameKnight Games and Cool Stuff
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